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Seon




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PostSubject: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeTue Sep 11, 2012 1:41 pm

I thought I would post it here as it appears town square gets more attention but it could possibly go into Brainstorm too.

After making my Sword/DW AT which was pretty successful, I was thinking of making a warrior that used Staves but then found out that they can only get 60base staff and not 105 Sad
AT get 120 staff, Seyan get 90, so why don't warrior get 105 Wink?

It's more of a request but I hope that more people would be interested in this and thus hopefully push to see this happen Very Happy
So I ask, would it be possible to get the Staff on warriors bumped up to 105?

Would be greatly appreciated if you could consider this!
I guess everyone else could post their opinions too Smile

Many Thanks!!

I don't know how difficult it would be to change it so If this gets no support than I guess you can just ignore me :p
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeTue Sep 11, 2012 2:08 pm

I'm Commander Keon and this is one of the best damn posts on this forum!
(was forced to appear here, but I am intrigued by the idea!)
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeTue Sep 11, 2012 2:57 pm

I know others who have had their spirits crushed when they went to make a staff warrior. 105 staff base!
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeTue Sep 11, 2012 3:55 pm

Increasing warriors base staff to 105 would allow them to use a weapon with 84 WV.

Seems OK considering the barb sword + tit DW allows 88 WV (if I recall correctly)...
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeTue Sep 11, 2012 4:32 pm

Staff gives higher weapon mods in return you get less Wv.

From what I can tell, staff's purpose atm is to allow temps to regenerate mana or let sorcs get more Wv.
But on a warrior it is actually a viable option and would give staff a much more valuable role in the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 5:59 am

Barb King Sword = 56
DW Tit sword = 32
Total = 88 so redman's recollection is correct.

Noble Staff = 84

However, last time I checked the Warriors could get 105 base Staff skill.
Have I missed something?


Note: Staff will not give Poison, even if you have DW skill.
Poison only works for DW skill if something is held in Laft Hand as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 6:15 am

I asked Jack to check and even got my brother to look on his warrior but they both said Max was 60 Sad

I'm aware it won't give poison or DW crits and less wv but I considered better mods and cheaper to raise (if it intends to stay at temp/hara cost) as advantages, plus they look pretty cool Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 6:40 am

Looks like 105 base sword, dagger and hand to hand for Warriors but only 60 base staff and 30 base wand maximum.

I don't see any reason why the max staff base shouldn't be raised to 105.
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 8:39 am

Quote :
However, last time I checked the Warriors could get 105 base Staff skill.
Have I missed something?

I am not 100% sure what you guys are looking at.

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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 9:11 am

The /max command shows 60. Is that just a typo?
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 9:27 am

The data fields in CGI had it at 60, but is 105 now.

So looks like Warrior base is 105 now, but it must have changed recently (is still 60 base on Test CGI server)
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 9:32 am

Wow yay Very Happy! Many thanks!!
Time to make dreams happen!
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 11:40 am

Seon wrote:
I asked Jack to check and even got my brother to look on his warrior but they both said Max was 60 Sad

I'm aware it won't give poison or DW crits and less wv but I considered better mods and cheaper to raise (if it intends to stay at temp/hara cost) as advantages, plus they look pretty cool Wink
why wouldn't staff cost the same as sword and DW? I would almost think it would cost more due to the fact that your only raising one skill instead of two.
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 8:09 am

Looks to me like staff and sword and DW all cost the same (at least for mercs and derivatives).
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 12:07 pm

How comes staff gets +staff when you make it but wand gets +0 on all wands???
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 3:43 pm

Andy wrote:
How comes staff gets +staff when you make it but wand gets +0 on all wands???
Saw a +11Wand Wand in temple today Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 6:10 pm

staff of nobility gets +10/20 mod base (plain staff)...
Wand of mage gets... +0 wand
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeFri Sep 14, 2012 11:13 am

Doesn't wand of mage have other stats?
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeFri Sep 14, 2012 1:59 pm

Plain staff of nobility gets...
+10 staff
+20 Perception
+20 Meditate

Plain wand of mage gets...
+10 regen
+10 med
+10 conc

Unfair bonuses to staves, AHs combine and revolt!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 3:01 am

Andy wrote:
Plain staff of nobility gets...
+10 staff
+20 Perception
+20 Meditate

Plain wand of mage gets...
+10 regen
+10 med
+10 conc

Unfair bonuses to staves, AHs combine and revolt!!!

Actualy, when y list em up like that, a Wand should have +20med and +20conc, not regen, why we even want regen? that can wait for later ^^
But this is how the staffs and wands are made, so we should just settle with it Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 11:39 am

Just for the record, normally something with +med will have no impact on a templar as they do not have the base med stats.

However, the staff specially modifies the wearer so that the mod med skill does impact on templars.
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeSun Sep 16, 2012 7:10 am

Wands allow the use of a shield
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeTue Sep 18, 2012 6:43 pm

If Warriors get 105 staff now, I need a char remade, cuz I made a staff warrior along time ago and LL told me I only get 60 base so I sorced him, would be nice to not have to do that all over again.
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeTue Sep 18, 2012 7:26 pm

the reason wand has less stats is because u can wear a sheild and get more stats while a staff is 2h
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PostSubject: Re: Warriors using Staff. Need higher base!   Warriors using Staff. Need higher base! Icon_minitimeThu Sep 27, 2012 8:12 am

Quest got fixed! yaay!


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